5 trucs (en anglais)
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Martin M.
- Dragon de bronze
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- Classe : Mage
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- Dieu : Mystra
5 trucs (en anglais)
Je n'ai pas le mérite des trucs pour MD suivant,
mais je les trouves quand même bien,
ils sont en anglais, mais ça vaut tout de même la peine.
Source : http://www.goblinscomic.com/dungeon-master-tips/
These are the DMing rules that I follow. Some of them have evolved from my own experiences while others were passed down to me from my uncle, who started teaching me how to DM in 1980.
Tip #1
Never control your player’s character. If the characters hear a noise behind them, try to avoid saying “you all hear a heavy growling behind you and turn around to see what it is“. Even though the characters are almost definitely going to turn around, you don’t have the right to take control of the party by doing it for them. However, waiting for each and every one of them to tell you that they turn around, usually by saying “well duh, obviously I turn to see what’s growling” can get tedious. Instead, say something like “you all hear a heavy growling behind you. Those of you who turn around see a snarling, hairy beast as big as a horse“. At this point, it’s safe to assume that all characters have turned around, because honestly, who wouldn’t. But you’ve left full control of the characters with the players which will add to the quality of the game. You wouldn’t let them tell you which direction the wind is blowing in your world, would you? However, you can control their involuntary reactions. You can tell them that they’re shivering due to the cold or sweating due to a failed bluff check in a tense situation.
Tip #2
Telling your players what their characters see around them is the bulk of what a DM does, but don’t forget to explain what their other senses are picking up as well. While you’re explaining the look of the buildings in the city that they just entered, maybe tell them how the city smells. If they’re in a vendor’s area, then you might explain the odour of spices and cooked meats floating through the air. If it’s a nasty side of town, then maybe the stink of urine is hanging about. If they’re creeping through a dank, dungeon hallway, then perhaps they can hear the echoed dripping of water coming from the shadows all around them. If a character wears gloves and the weather is warm, describe the sweaty feeling of the damp leather on his hands. Taped to the inside of my DM screen is a piece of paper that says “sight, smell, taste, touch, sound“. I keep it there to remind me to use whatever senses best fit the description. However, remember to keep you descriptions detailed, but short. Which reminds me…
Tip #3
Keep your descriptions detailed, but short. D&D is a shared fantasy between the players and you, which means that the closer everyone is to imagining the same game, the more accurate and more fun the game is. Lots of juicy details from the DM help everyone imagine the same thing, but don’t go on and on, especially during combat when speed is key. An example of not enough detail could be…
“You kill the orc. He dies.” This description is nice and fast, but doesn’t tell the players much. An example of too much information could be…
“You swing your long sword which slices through the orc’s belly like a knife through warm butter. The creature’s leathery hide splits open and greenish, yellow guts spew outward like a group of large, slimy worms fleeing into the open air. The orc warrior who seemed cocky and confident only moments ago, drops his rusty, blood-stained axe to the dusty ground and clasps at his new wound. His fierce tusks and warrior’s tattoo that decorate his face are now a direct contrast to the look of disbelief and fear that he gives you. Blood and sticky gore ooze between the fingers of his scarred hand that clutches futilely at the fatal wound. His muscled legs begin to lose their strength and shake. Instinctively, the mighty creature takes a half step toward you in an attempt to keep his balance, but it is to no avail. He drops to his knees with a wet thunk, landing in the puddle of blood and innards that lazily mix with the dust and sand. The orc’s yellow eyes then roll back into his head and a deep, growling whimper escapes his mouth before he finally collapses face first into the blood soaked dust. The deep red pool slowly expands outward, covering the surrounding ground and eventually touching your enemy’s battle axe that lay beside him. One of the strange birds circling above you lets out a shriek. Surely the winged creatures are planning to feast on the newly created corpse very soon.” This description offers lots of neato details, but really slows down the whole game. Sure, this kind of description might be okay if the characters had just killed a main villain (even still, this is pretty long), but if you gave long descriptions like this to every Tom, Dick and kobold that they killed, you’d probably lose their interest pretty quickly. Here’s an example of a good compromise of the two descriptions…
“You slice through the orc’s belly, causing greenish, yellow guts to spew outward. He drops his axe, clasps at the wound and looks up at you with fear in his eyes before collapsing face first onto the dusty ground.” This doesn’t have as much information as the previous description, but it keeps the game flowing and doesn’t make your players wait for you to finish.
Tip #4
Although this next tip may not be for everyone, it’s greatly improved the quality of my games over the years.
During the game, keep careful track of the XP that each character earns (something that all DMs should be doing anyways). I did this by having the character’s names written in a pad and quickly scribbled down everything they did to earn XP under each of their names. When the game was over, I’d add up the XP and give each player an XP card at the start of the next game. Here’s an example of an XP card that Danielle’s character The Hummingbird received years ago…
With this card, Danielle could see exactly what she did and didn’t do to earn XP during the previous game and in what order it took place. Aside from giving her a kind of receipt, the cards also act as a sort of simplified journal that players can keep and look back on. A record of everything they’ve done over the years.
In my games, I awarded 100 xp for talking to NPCs at some length and with some level of in-character conversation. You can see here that The Hummingbird had a couple of conversations.
The 125+100 xp is in two parts. 125 for impressive roleplaying (this goes beyond standard conversations with NPCs) plus 100 for performing a class based action. Since she was a rogue, picking a pocket qualified her for this. If she was a cleric, healing someone’s wounds would have gotten her the XP. This bonus could never be awarded more than once per game and was only given if the action had some kind of beneficial effect. For instance, if a wizard realised that the game would be ending soon and so cast Magic Missile at a tree in an attempt to quickly grab that 100 point bonus, he’d be out of luck.
The 350 xp was a standard “defeating a dangerous, dungeon room” bonus that I always gave and yes, that’s how “The Dounut Room” was spelled. There were many more ways to earn house-ruled XP as well. I suppose that’ll be my next tip.
The top left corner shows the card’s number. I noticed one day that all the players were numbering there cards to keep them in order and so I started doing it for them. This also helped with record keeping. Even though Danielle hasn’t played The Hummingbird in years, I know that she played forty one games of D&D with that character because I have forty one XP cards here on the table.
The top right corner shows the in-game date that the gaming session started. This would help players keep track of how much in game time was passing. Sometimes it’s hard to remember if your character fought that flying crocodile two ‘in game’ days ago or two ‘in game’ months ago, because it may have happened three months ago in real time.
Another advantage to having the cards is that players can point out any mistakes I may have made. Being human, it’s not impossible for me to miss something point worthy that a character had done and therefore not award any XP for it. With the card, the player could call me on it, discuss it, hit me with something heavy and get the points he deserved.
It should be very easy to find thick packs of blank cards (sometimes with cool, green marble patterns on them like the one above) at most dollar stores. They cost about… well… a dollar.
Tip #5
Encourage everyone to take short breaks. I used to work as a blackjack/poker dealer and every casino forces all the dealers to take one fifteen minute break every hour (not all at the same time, of course). This is because it’s been proven that after an hour of concentration, the average brain starts to slow down and make mistakes (and slow dealers cost casinos money). Now you might not be required to be on your mental toes as much as a dealer, so you probably don’t need that many breaks. My personal preference was to take a ten to fifteen minute break every two or three hours. Get up, stretch your legs, talk about something other than hit points and realise that the “Funions are stuck in the machine”. Then you can dive back into the game, fully rejuvenated.
mais je les trouves quand même bien,
ils sont en anglais, mais ça vaut tout de même la peine.
Source : http://www.goblinscomic.com/dungeon-master-tips/
These are the DMing rules that I follow. Some of them have evolved from my own experiences while others were passed down to me from my uncle, who started teaching me how to DM in 1980.
Tip #1
Never control your player’s character. If the characters hear a noise behind them, try to avoid saying “you all hear a heavy growling behind you and turn around to see what it is“. Even though the characters are almost definitely going to turn around, you don’t have the right to take control of the party by doing it for them. However, waiting for each and every one of them to tell you that they turn around, usually by saying “well duh, obviously I turn to see what’s growling” can get tedious. Instead, say something like “you all hear a heavy growling behind you. Those of you who turn around see a snarling, hairy beast as big as a horse“. At this point, it’s safe to assume that all characters have turned around, because honestly, who wouldn’t. But you’ve left full control of the characters with the players which will add to the quality of the game. You wouldn’t let them tell you which direction the wind is blowing in your world, would you? However, you can control their involuntary reactions. You can tell them that they’re shivering due to the cold or sweating due to a failed bluff check in a tense situation.
Tip #2
Telling your players what their characters see around them is the bulk of what a DM does, but don’t forget to explain what their other senses are picking up as well. While you’re explaining the look of the buildings in the city that they just entered, maybe tell them how the city smells. If they’re in a vendor’s area, then you might explain the odour of spices and cooked meats floating through the air. If it’s a nasty side of town, then maybe the stink of urine is hanging about. If they’re creeping through a dank, dungeon hallway, then perhaps they can hear the echoed dripping of water coming from the shadows all around them. If a character wears gloves and the weather is warm, describe the sweaty feeling of the damp leather on his hands. Taped to the inside of my DM screen is a piece of paper that says “sight, smell, taste, touch, sound“. I keep it there to remind me to use whatever senses best fit the description. However, remember to keep you descriptions detailed, but short. Which reminds me…
Tip #3
Keep your descriptions detailed, but short. D&D is a shared fantasy between the players and you, which means that the closer everyone is to imagining the same game, the more accurate and more fun the game is. Lots of juicy details from the DM help everyone imagine the same thing, but don’t go on and on, especially during combat when speed is key. An example of not enough detail could be…
“You kill the orc. He dies.” This description is nice and fast, but doesn’t tell the players much. An example of too much information could be…
“You swing your long sword which slices through the orc’s belly like a knife through warm butter. The creature’s leathery hide splits open and greenish, yellow guts spew outward like a group of large, slimy worms fleeing into the open air. The orc warrior who seemed cocky and confident only moments ago, drops his rusty, blood-stained axe to the dusty ground and clasps at his new wound. His fierce tusks and warrior’s tattoo that decorate his face are now a direct contrast to the look of disbelief and fear that he gives you. Blood and sticky gore ooze between the fingers of his scarred hand that clutches futilely at the fatal wound. His muscled legs begin to lose their strength and shake. Instinctively, the mighty creature takes a half step toward you in an attempt to keep his balance, but it is to no avail. He drops to his knees with a wet thunk, landing in the puddle of blood and innards that lazily mix with the dust and sand. The orc’s yellow eyes then roll back into his head and a deep, growling whimper escapes his mouth before he finally collapses face first into the blood soaked dust. The deep red pool slowly expands outward, covering the surrounding ground and eventually touching your enemy’s battle axe that lay beside him. One of the strange birds circling above you lets out a shriek. Surely the winged creatures are planning to feast on the newly created corpse very soon.” This description offers lots of neato details, but really slows down the whole game. Sure, this kind of description might be okay if the characters had just killed a main villain (even still, this is pretty long), but if you gave long descriptions like this to every Tom, Dick and kobold that they killed, you’d probably lose their interest pretty quickly. Here’s an example of a good compromise of the two descriptions…
“You slice through the orc’s belly, causing greenish, yellow guts to spew outward. He drops his axe, clasps at the wound and looks up at you with fear in his eyes before collapsing face first onto the dusty ground.” This doesn’t have as much information as the previous description, but it keeps the game flowing and doesn’t make your players wait for you to finish.
Tip #4
Although this next tip may not be for everyone, it’s greatly improved the quality of my games over the years.
During the game, keep careful track of the XP that each character earns (something that all DMs should be doing anyways). I did this by having the character’s names written in a pad and quickly scribbled down everything they did to earn XP under each of their names. When the game was over, I’d add up the XP and give each player an XP card at the start of the next game. Here’s an example of an XP card that Danielle’s character The Hummingbird received years ago…
With this card, Danielle could see exactly what she did and didn’t do to earn XP during the previous game and in what order it took place. Aside from giving her a kind of receipt, the cards also act as a sort of simplified journal that players can keep and look back on. A record of everything they’ve done over the years.
In my games, I awarded 100 xp for talking to NPCs at some length and with some level of in-character conversation. You can see here that The Hummingbird had a couple of conversations.
The 125+100 xp is in two parts. 125 for impressive roleplaying (this goes beyond standard conversations with NPCs) plus 100 for performing a class based action. Since she was a rogue, picking a pocket qualified her for this. If she was a cleric, healing someone’s wounds would have gotten her the XP. This bonus could never be awarded more than once per game and was only given if the action had some kind of beneficial effect. For instance, if a wizard realised that the game would be ending soon and so cast Magic Missile at a tree in an attempt to quickly grab that 100 point bonus, he’d be out of luck.
The 350 xp was a standard “defeating a dangerous, dungeon room” bonus that I always gave and yes, that’s how “The Dounut Room” was spelled. There were many more ways to earn house-ruled XP as well. I suppose that’ll be my next tip.
The top left corner shows the card’s number. I noticed one day that all the players were numbering there cards to keep them in order and so I started doing it for them. This also helped with record keeping. Even though Danielle hasn’t played The Hummingbird in years, I know that she played forty one games of D&D with that character because I have forty one XP cards here on the table.
The top right corner shows the in-game date that the gaming session started. This would help players keep track of how much in game time was passing. Sometimes it’s hard to remember if your character fought that flying crocodile two ‘in game’ days ago or two ‘in game’ months ago, because it may have happened three months ago in real time.
Another advantage to having the cards is that players can point out any mistakes I may have made. Being human, it’s not impossible for me to miss something point worthy that a character had done and therefore not award any XP for it. With the card, the player could call me on it, discuss it, hit me with something heavy and get the points he deserved.
It should be very easy to find thick packs of blank cards (sometimes with cool, green marble patterns on them like the one above) at most dollar stores. They cost about… well… a dollar.
Tip #5
Encourage everyone to take short breaks. I used to work as a blackjack/poker dealer and every casino forces all the dealers to take one fifteen minute break every hour (not all at the same time, of course). This is because it’s been proven that after an hour of concentration, the average brain starts to slow down and make mistakes (and slow dealers cost casinos money). Now you might not be required to be on your mental toes as much as a dealer, so you probably don’t need that many breaks. My personal preference was to take a ten to fifteen minute break every two or three hours. Get up, stretch your legs, talk about something other than hit points and realise that the “Funions are stuck in the machine”. Then you can dive back into the game, fully rejuvenated.
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Re: 5 trucs (en anglais)
Une petite traduction peut-être ? 
In Gygax we trust !
De la peinture de Figs !
De la peinture de Figs !
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Re: 5 trucs (en anglais)
Traduction rapide et approximative des astuces pour être un bon MD
Astuce 1: Ne jamais contrôler les personnages des joueurs. Ne pas leur dire vous entendez un bruit derrière vous et vous vous retournez pour voir ce qu'il en est. Dites plutôt Vous entendez un raclement provenant de derrière vous. Ceux qui se retourne pourront voir une créature poilue au moins aussi grosse qu'un cheval.
Logiquement, les personnage se retourneront d'eux même pour la voir et garderont ainsi leur libre arbitre.
Astuce :2
Lors des descriptions, utilisez tous les sens. Lorsque vous parlez d'une ville, décrire les bâtiments c'est bien, mais préciser les odeurs flottant dans l'air et la douceur de l'air est un plus.
En souterrain, ils pourront entendre l'écho des gouttes d'eau qui tombent, provenant des ombres environnantes.
Ceci pour étoffer les descriptions.
Astuces 3:
Faites des descriptions détaillées et courtes. D&D est un échange entre vos joueurs est vous, et l'objectif est que tous puissent visualiser la même chose. Mais ne pas surcharger de détails inutiles, surtout en combat qui nécessite des actions rapides.
"vous tuez l'orc. Il agonise". cette description est clair et rapide, et n'apporte rien de plus aux aux personnages.
Apporter un peu plus d'information pourrait être " Tu frappes avec ton épée longue qui s'enfonce dans le corps de l'orc comme un couteau dans du beurre, déchiquetant les chairs et broyant les os. Un sang verdâtre se répand hors de la blessure. Cet orc qui semblait confiant avant le combat lâche sa sa hache et dans un geste désespéré essaie de retenir ses entrailles avec les mains. Par réflexe, la créature fait un pas en arrière pour rester à distance, mais ses jambes le trahissent et il s'affale au sol, puis après quelques convulsions reste immobile. sa hache et enserre de ses mains sa blessure. Son tatouage de guerrier décorant son visage contraste avec son regard effrayé.
Une telle description, précise apportera de nombreux détails sur le combat mais ralentira le rythme de celui-ci et par la force des choses le jeu. Cela pourra convenir contre un PNJ important mais pas pour tous les combats.
Un compromis entre pas et trop de détail pourrait être " Tu tranches avec ton épée longue le ventre de l'orc qui vomit des boyaux verdâtres à l'extérieur. Il laisse tomber sa hache, étreint sa blessure, et lève ses yeux laissant paraitre de la crainte avant de tomber face contre terre." Il y a moins d'information que dans l'exemple précédent, mais cela permet de garder un jeu plus fluide.
Astuce 4:
Ceci n'intéressera pas forcément tout le monde, mais c'est un truc qui m'a permis d'améliorer grandement la qualité de jeu au cours de ces années.
Durant le jeu, je garde sur une feuille face au nom de chaque personnage tout ce qu'il fait et qui apporte de l'expérience. JE rempli entre deux jeu une fiche d'expérience que je remets aux joueurs à la session suivante.
Un exemple est joint dans le post initial.
Ainsi le joueur peut voir exactement ce qu'il a fait ou pas pour gagner de l'expérience. Ces fiches peuvent aissi représenter une sorte de journal de campagne.
Quand je fais jouer, j'accorde 100 XP lors des conversations avec des PNJ en fonction de la durée et de l'importance.
J'accorde 100 XP pour l'usage des talents de voleur, mais une seule fois par partie. Même chose pour le clerc qui soigne ou le mage qui lance utilement un sort.
Astuce 5:
J'encourage à faire de courtes pauses lors des parties. J'essaie de masteriser comme un croupier et les casino forcent ceux-ci à faire des coupures de 15 minutes toutes les heures. Ceci parce-qu'il a été prouvé qu'après une heure de concentration, l'activité cérébrale commence à faiblir et des erreurs peuvent être commises (et les croupiers coutent de l'argent aux casinos).
En jeu on n'a pas forcément une attention aussi soutenue qu'un croupier, et les pauses n'auront pas besoin d'être aussi fréquentes. Mais j'ai pour habitude de faire des pauses de 15 minutes toutes les deux ou trois heures. C'est l'occasion de se dégourdir les jambes et de parler d'autre chose que de points de vie. Ensuite on peut reprendre le jeu, totalement régénéré.
Je me suis permis certaines libertés et coupes dans cette traduction, mais l'esprit de l'auteur est conservé. Certaines locutions utilisées me sont inconnues.
Astuce 1: Ne jamais contrôler les personnages des joueurs. Ne pas leur dire vous entendez un bruit derrière vous et vous vous retournez pour voir ce qu'il en est. Dites plutôt Vous entendez un raclement provenant de derrière vous. Ceux qui se retourne pourront voir une créature poilue au moins aussi grosse qu'un cheval.
Logiquement, les personnage se retourneront d'eux même pour la voir et garderont ainsi leur libre arbitre.
Astuce :2
Lors des descriptions, utilisez tous les sens. Lorsque vous parlez d'une ville, décrire les bâtiments c'est bien, mais préciser les odeurs flottant dans l'air et la douceur de l'air est un plus.
En souterrain, ils pourront entendre l'écho des gouttes d'eau qui tombent, provenant des ombres environnantes.
Ceci pour étoffer les descriptions.
Astuces 3:
Faites des descriptions détaillées et courtes. D&D est un échange entre vos joueurs est vous, et l'objectif est que tous puissent visualiser la même chose. Mais ne pas surcharger de détails inutiles, surtout en combat qui nécessite des actions rapides.
"vous tuez l'orc. Il agonise". cette description est clair et rapide, et n'apporte rien de plus aux aux personnages.
Apporter un peu plus d'information pourrait être " Tu frappes avec ton épée longue qui s'enfonce dans le corps de l'orc comme un couteau dans du beurre, déchiquetant les chairs et broyant les os. Un sang verdâtre se répand hors de la blessure. Cet orc qui semblait confiant avant le combat lâche sa sa hache et dans un geste désespéré essaie de retenir ses entrailles avec les mains. Par réflexe, la créature fait un pas en arrière pour rester à distance, mais ses jambes le trahissent et il s'affale au sol, puis après quelques convulsions reste immobile. sa hache et enserre de ses mains sa blessure. Son tatouage de guerrier décorant son visage contraste avec son regard effrayé.
Une telle description, précise apportera de nombreux détails sur le combat mais ralentira le rythme de celui-ci et par la force des choses le jeu. Cela pourra convenir contre un PNJ important mais pas pour tous les combats.
Un compromis entre pas et trop de détail pourrait être " Tu tranches avec ton épée longue le ventre de l'orc qui vomit des boyaux verdâtres à l'extérieur. Il laisse tomber sa hache, étreint sa blessure, et lève ses yeux laissant paraitre de la crainte avant de tomber face contre terre." Il y a moins d'information que dans l'exemple précédent, mais cela permet de garder un jeu plus fluide.
Astuce 4:
Ceci n'intéressera pas forcément tout le monde, mais c'est un truc qui m'a permis d'améliorer grandement la qualité de jeu au cours de ces années.
Durant le jeu, je garde sur une feuille face au nom de chaque personnage tout ce qu'il fait et qui apporte de l'expérience. JE rempli entre deux jeu une fiche d'expérience que je remets aux joueurs à la session suivante.
Un exemple est joint dans le post initial.
Ainsi le joueur peut voir exactement ce qu'il a fait ou pas pour gagner de l'expérience. Ces fiches peuvent aissi représenter une sorte de journal de campagne.
Quand je fais jouer, j'accorde 100 XP lors des conversations avec des PNJ en fonction de la durée et de l'importance.
J'accorde 100 XP pour l'usage des talents de voleur, mais une seule fois par partie. Même chose pour le clerc qui soigne ou le mage qui lance utilement un sort.
Astuce 5:
J'encourage à faire de courtes pauses lors des parties. J'essaie de masteriser comme un croupier et les casino forcent ceux-ci à faire des coupures de 15 minutes toutes les heures. Ceci parce-qu'il a été prouvé qu'après une heure de concentration, l'activité cérébrale commence à faiblir et des erreurs peuvent être commises (et les croupiers coutent de l'argent aux casinos).
En jeu on n'a pas forcément une attention aussi soutenue qu'un croupier, et les pauses n'auront pas besoin d'être aussi fréquentes. Mais j'ai pour habitude de faire des pauses de 15 minutes toutes les deux ou trois heures. C'est l'occasion de se dégourdir les jambes et de parler d'autre chose que de points de vie. Ensuite on peut reprendre le jeu, totalement régénéré.
Je me suis permis certaines libertés et coupes dans cette traduction, mais l'esprit de l'auteur est conservé. Certaines locutions utilisées me sont inconnues.
Apprenez à penser par vous même, sinon d'autres le feront pour vous.
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Martin M.
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Re: 5 trucs (en anglais)
Merci Outsider pour la traduction rapide !
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Re: 5 trucs (en anglais)
Pareil. 
Bien que certaines astuces soient bateau, d'autres sont intéressantes.
Bien que certaines astuces soient bateau, d'autres sont intéressantes.
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Re: 5 trucs (en anglais)
Merci pour la source et la traduction quelques conseils sont toujours bons à prendre
