le Nyr Dyv

[PatdeLoup]

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Salut,
Pour chercher où il y a des choses écrites sur un sujet, voir le boulot fantastique de Jason Zavoda pour l'Encyclopedia Greyhawkania Index (http://www.greyhawkonline.com/encyclope ... -08-31.txt) :

Nyr Dyv (Lake of Unknown Depths)[RVR]
AOE - 7,138,163,210,211,215,222
CED - 38
COG:C# - 18
COG:FFF - 3,4,6-9,22,25,43,46,54,57,70,71,79-81
COG:GOTF - 2,3,16,18,21,32,33,42,45,55,76
COH - 13,150,214,239
DMG1 - 156
DRG#37 - 11
DRG#56 - 20
DRG#57 - 13
DRG#195 - 96
DRG#206 - 44
DRG#233 - 93
DRG#241 - 78
DRG#262 - 37,38,40,41,43
DRG#268 - 71
DRG#293 - 90
DRG#294 - 90,91
DRG#299 - 96
DRG#301 - 86
DRG#AN3 - 22,23
EW - 43
FTAA - 3,25,37,42,45,49,50,63,64,77,79
FTAC - 4,9,10,20-23,31,49,76
FTAR#1
FTAR#14
GA - 80
GW:ADV - 10,20
IVID
LGG - 3,4,7,14,23,27,31,40,41,45,46,51,59,75,77,103,123,124
125,127,148,149,150,152,153,159
LGJ#0 - 5,10
LGJ#1 - 27,28
LGJ#2 - 1,4,8,12,14,17,19
LGJ#4 - 1,25
NA - 65,235
OCA - 2
PGTG - 3-5,23,28,32,35,51,52
POLY#92 - 12,13
RTO8 - 2,3,6,18-23,25,26,29,32,45,46,47
S1 - 2
S2 - 11
SLV - 1,2,4,6-10,14-19,21,24,26,31,34,37-39,48,63,
67,109,118
SOD - 310
SOOC - 6,55,91,92,93,97,106,114,119,142
T1-4 - 6,27,38
TAB - 3-7,11,16,21,33,48,50,54-58,60,62,64,76,77,
83,84,86,101,116
TAB:AM - 2,5
TD - IBC,29,41,44,46
TSB - 7,23
TSC - IC,3
WG6 - 6,8,22
WG8 - 21,58,59,60,68
WGA2 - 24
WGA4 - 6,14,22,24,27,28,31,49
WGG - 5,9,10,11,15,18,20,21,23,24,25
WGM1 - IBC,8
WGR1 - 16
WGR2 - 18,19,82,84
WGR4 - 3,7,8,9,10,11,30,35,71
WGR5 - 4,42,43,64,76,88,90,96
WOGA - 8,21,22,25,34,40,46,48,49,54,55,60
WOGG - 15

Nyr Dyv, Eye of the [ITM]
WGR2 - 82,84

Nyr Dyv, Midbay of the [RVR]
AOE - 213
COG:FFF - 78
COG:GOTF - 18,21,33
DRG#262 - 37,38,40
FTA:SBM
FTAC - 21,22,25,30
FTAR#14
LGG - 51,149,152
LGJ#1 - 28
PGTG - 28
RTO8 - 20
SOOC - 6,97
TAB - 48
TAB:AM - 2,7
TD - IBC
WGA4 - 24,49
WGG - 21
WGM1 - IBC
WOGA - 48

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A1 Slave Pits of the Undercity (A1)
A1-4 Scourge of the Slavelords (A1-4)
A2 Secret of the Slavers Stockade (A2)
A3 Assault on the Aerie of the Slave Lords (A3)
A4 In The Dungeons of the Slave Lords (A4)
The Adventure Begins (TAB)
The Adventure Begins: Adventure Maps (TAB:AM)
Against The Giants - The Liberation of Geoff - Adventure (ATG)
Artifact of Evil (AOE)
Bigbys Curse (BC)
C1 The Hidden Shrine of Tamoachan (C1)
C2 Ghost Tower of Inverness (C2)
Castles: Hart (HART)
City of Greyhawk: Adventure Cards (COG:C#)
City of Greyhawk: Folks, Feuds and Factions (COG:FFF)
City of Greyhawk: Gem of the Flanaess (COG:GOTF)
City of Hawks (COH)
Come Endless Darkness (CED)
The Complete Thiefs Handbook (CTH)
The Crypt of Lyzandred the Mad (COLTM)
D1 Descent into the Depths of the Earth (D1)
D2 Shrine of the Kuo-Toa (D2)
D3 Vault of the Drow (D3)
D1-2 Descent into the Depths of the Earth (D1-2)
Dance of Demons (DOD)
Dead Gods (DG)
The Doomgrinder (TD)
Dragon Magazine (DRG#)(1-3,5-7,9,19,37,43,52,55-57,59,63-65,
,67-71,82,86-90,92,93,100,131,139,141,164,167,171,173
,178,185,188,189,191,194-196,200,2-4-206,208-212,219
,225,230,233,236,238,241-243,245,246,249,253,256,258
,262-265,268-271,274,276-278,280,281,284,285,287,288,
,290-302,AN1-AN4)
Dungeon Magazine (DUN#)(6,13,19,30,32,41,42,53,70,71,72,73,77,
,80,85,89,95)
Dungeon Masters Guide 1st Edition (DMG1)
Eldritch Wizardry (EW)
The Fright At Tristor (FAT)
From the Ashes: Atlas of the Flanaess (FTAA)
From the Ashes: Campaign Book (FTAC)
From the Ashes: References Card (FTAR#)(1-14)
From the Ashes: The Beckoner in the Dark (FTA:TBITD)
From the Ashes: Brainstorm (FTA:B)
From the Ashes: Dark Heart of Oak (FTA:DHOO)
From the Ashes: Honest Bandits (FTA:HB)
From the Ashes: Slavers By Midnight (FTA:SBM)
From the Ashes: Tamara Belongs to Me (FTA:TBTM)
G3 Hall of the Fire Giant King (G3)
G123 Against the Giants (G123)
GDQ1-7 Queen of the Spiders (GDQ)
Ghost Tower of Inverness (GTOI)
Greyhawk Adventures (GA)
Greyhawk Wars: Rule Book (GW:RB)
Greyhawk Wars: Adventures (GW:ADV)
I1 Dwellers of the Forbidden City (I1)
I7 Baltrons Beacon (I7)
I9 Day of Al'Akbar (I9)
IQ3 Warriors of the Gray Queen (IQ3)
Ivid the Undying (IVID)
L1 The Secret of Bone Hill (L1)
L2 The Assassins Knot (L2)
L3 Deep Dwarven Delve (L3)
Living Greyhawk Gazetteer (LGG)
Living Greyhawk Journal (LGJ#)(0,1,2,3,4,5)
Living Onnwal Gazetteer (LOG)
Lost Tomaochan: The Hidden Shrine of Lubaatum (LT)
Monster Manual (MMI)
Monster Manual II (MMII)
N1 Against the Cult of the Reptile God (N1)
Night Arrant (NA)
Official AD&D Coloring Album (OCA)
ONW1-01 Escape From Scant (ONW1-01)
ONW1-02 To Catch A Traitor (ONW1-02)
ONW1-03 The Glaive's Gambit (ONW1-03)
ONW1-04 Nature's Course (ONW1-04)
ONW1-05 Last Respects (ONW1-05)
ONW1-06 Remember the Farmers (OWN1-06)
ONW1-07 Hunters Hunted (OWN1-07)
ONW1-08 Rashtai's Brother (OWN1-08)
Players Guide to Greyhawk (PGTG)
Polyhedron Magazine (POLY#)(18,25,30,43,58,92,101,113,128,129,139)
Q1 Queen of the Demonweb Pits (Q1)
The Return of the Eight (RTO8)
Return to the Keep on the Borderland (RKB)
Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil (RT1-4)
Return to the Tomb of Horrors (RTOH)
Return to White Plume Mountain (RWPM)
Rogues Gallery (ROG)
S1 Tomb of Horrors (S1)
S2 White Plume Mountain (S2)
S2 White Plume Mountain {Expanded}(S2E)
S3 Expedition To The Barrier Peaks (S3)
S4 The Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth Book One (S4B1)
S4 The Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth Book Two (S4B2)
Saga of Old City (SOOC)
Sagard the Barbarian #1 The Ice Dragon (SAG1)
The Scarlet Brotherhood (TSB)
Sea of Death (SOD)
Shattered Circle (SC)
Siege of the Citadel (SOTT)
Slavers (SLV)
The Star Cairns (TSC)
Sword and Fist (SAF)
T1-4 Temple of Elemental Evil (T1-4)
Tomb of Horrors (TOH)
TSR Jam 1999 (JAM)
U1 The Sinister Secret of Saltmarsh (U1)
U2 Danger at Dunwater (U2)
U3 The Final Enemy (U3)
UK1 Beyond the Crystal Cave (UK1)
UK2 Sentinel (UK2)
UK3 Gauntlet (UK3)
Unearthed Arcana (UA)
Vecna Reborn (VR)
WG4 The Forgotten Temple of Tharizdun (WG4)
WG5 Mordenkainens Fantastic Adventure (WG5)
WG6 Isle of the Ape (WG6)
WG7 Castle Greyhawk (NOT WORTH INDEXING)
WG8 Fate of Istus (WG8)
WG10 Childs Play (WG10)
WG11 Puppets (WG11)
WG12 Vale of the Mage (WG12)
WGA1 Falcons Revenge (WGA1)
WGA2 Falconmaster (WGA2)
WGA3 Flames of the Falcon (WGA3)
WGA4 Vecna Lives! (WGA4)
WGM1 Borderwatch (WGM1)
WGQ1 Patriots of Ulek (WGQ1)
WGR1 Greyhawk Ruins (WGR1)
WGR2 Treasures of Greyhawk (WGR2)
WGR3 Rary the Traitor (WGR3)
WGR4 The Marklands (WGR4)
WGR5 Iuz the Evil (WGR5)
WGR6 City of Skulls (WGR6)
WGS1 The Five Shall Be One (WGS1)
WGS2 Howl From the North (WGS2)
World of Greyhawk Boxed Set: A guide to (WOGA)
World of Greyhawk Boxed Set: Glossography (WOGG)
World of Greyhawk Gazetteer (WGG)

Abbreviations
BC = Back Cover
DIS = Disclaimer
FC = Front Cover
HO = Hand Out
IBC = Inside Back Cover
IC = Inside Front Cover
IN = Insert

[ADV] = Module/Supplement
[BK] = Book
[BTL] = Battle/War
[BRG] = Bridges
[CAL] = Date/Event/Time
[CAP] = Capitol
[CLN] = Clan/Family/Tribe
[CLS] = Class, Occupation, Profession
[COIN] = Coinage
[CTL] = Castle/Fort/Camp
[GLD] = Guild/League/Union
[GTE] = Gates
[ILE] = Islands
[INN] = Inn/Tavern/Bar/Restaurant
[ITM] = Item/Spell
[KNG] = Country/Kingdom/Province
[LIB] = Library
[LNG] = Language
[MNE] = Mine
[MON] = Monster
[MT] = Mountain/Hill
[ORG] = Organization/Society
[PHL] = Philosophy/Belief
[PLC] = Place
[PLN] = Plane/Dimension
[PPL] = People/Organization/Position
[PRV] = Province
[QTR] = City Quarter/Districts/Buildings/Offices
[RVR] = River/Lake/Stream
[SCL] = College/School
[SHP] = Shop
[STR] = Street/Road/Path
[TMP] = Temple/Church/Shrine
[TRT] = Treaty
[TWN] = City/Town/Village
[WD] = Woods/Forest/Jungle
[WST] = Wasteland

[squilnozor]

Merci beaucoup, ça a effectivement l'air très riche. Je vais essayer d'éplucher ça (un sacré toluob !)

[squilnozor]

Bon bin... grosse déception.
J'ai tout regardé sauf ce que je n'ai pas, c'est-à-dire les romans et Living Greyhawk (3e édition).
Ça confirme ce qui nous semblait : il n'y a pas de véritable article consacré au Nyr Dyv. Il est évoqué brièvement par-ci par-là dans un paquet de sources diverses, mais au total, ça reste assez maigre. Tant pis.

[LLyr]

Et un travail d'écriture et de remise en forme à partir des infos parcellaire ? Ça te changerait de la traduc

[squilnozor]

Ça serait un beau challenge, c'est sûr, mais ça serait un liavart d'imagination plus que de compilation, car les infos parcellaires traitent essentiellement des villes sur son pourtour, mais quasiment pas du Nyr Dyv lui-même. Or je suis assez mal doté en ce domaine. Je ne me sens pas d'inventer tout ça. Tant pis.

[PatdeLoup]

C'est l'avantage des inconvénients de Greyhawk, comme c'est un monde ancien, peu décrit, ouvert pour que les MD en fassent ce qu'ils en veulent, du coup, certains sujets sont peu traités, notamment les profondeurs inconnues... Quelques sites, mais peu d'infos, notamment sur certaines légendes.
https://greyhawk.fandom.com/wiki/Nyr_Dyv
http://greyhawkery.blogspot.com/2018/03 ... recks.html
http://swinglikedean.blogspot.com/2005/ ... -aaqa.html

[squilnozor]

Oui, ça n'est pas un inconvénient en soi, mais bon, l'article que j'aurais voulu reste à écrire. Un jour peut-être...

[LLyr]

A toi de l'écrire

[squilnozor]

Je sais, je sais, mais non.

[herkios]

Oui ça m arrangerait que tu l écrive j ai une traversée du nyrdyv a jouer dans un mois tu as donc trente jours moins une semaine pour que j ai le temps de lire tes écrits

[squilnozor]

Ça m'arrangerait aussi que tu l'écrives.